Sorry to vent again, but my friend who bought this game for me as a
gift asked me to try it again. I was enjoying it much more until I
reached the Super Duper Mart. Once again, I'm ready to crack the disc
in half and shitcan it so I can save myself many hours of digital
abuse
What's really chapping my ass is the combat mechanism, whether real
time or using the VATS, which is making me feel like a drunken,
retarded whale on a unicycle trying to shoot the legs off a fly in a
tornado! I'm getting the same disconnect in this game that I got from
Sacred where I never felt like my actions were being immediately
reflected by my character. There's always this soupy lag that makes
me feel like I'm playing with a permanent 3-second delay.
I've tried at least a dozen different ways to clear my way toward the
back, and in every scenario I've had my ass handed to me with all the
grace of the Soup Nazi from Seinfeld. None of my weapons seem to be
worth shit. The Assault Rifle does decent damage, but even with the
VATS precious ammo is wasted. The Laser Rifle does ok, but again,
shots are wasted because my character seems to be cross-eyed unless
the enemy is right in front of him. Do you have to sneak up on every
single enemy to get a decent hit?! I've already played Thief!
I don't like doing things over and over and over again, and the stats- obsession vibe that I'm getting from this game is not encouraging many
more attempts. If I can't realistically defeat all the Raiders in the
store, then why the fuck am I allowed to find my way to it in the
first place?! That's like allowing me to take on Diablo when I'm only
clvl 3!
Should I save myself further needless torment and find something else
to play that actually entertains me (instead of torturing me Guantanamo-style) or is there some secret to this area?
I'd love to know as I'd really like to enjoy this game, but right now
it feels like I'm being fucked with sandpaper!
Dave S.
Sorry to vent again, but my friend who bought this game for me as aTo be honest, I go in with guns blazing, even in the Mart. Once you've
gift asked me to try it again. I was enjoying it much more until I
reached the Super Duper Mart. Once again, I'm ready to crack the disc
in half and shitcan it so I can save myself many hours of digital
abuse
What's really chapping my ass is the combat mechanism, whether real
time or using the VATS, which is making me feel like a drunken,
retarded whale on a unicycle trying to shoot the legs off a fly in a
tornado! I'm getting the same disconnect in this game that I got from
Sacred where I never felt like my actions were being immediately
reflected by my character. There's always this soupy lag that makes
me feel like I'm playing with a permanent 3-second delay.
I've tried at least a dozen different ways to clear my way toward the
back, and in every scenario I've had my ass handed to me with all the
grace of the Soup Nazi from Seinfeld. None of my weapons seem to be
worth shit. The Assault Rifle does decent damage, but even with the
VATS precious ammo is wasted. The Laser Rifle does ok, but again,
shots are wasted because my character seems to be cross-eyed unless
the enemy is right in front of him. Do you have to sneak up on every
single enemy to get a decent hit?! I've already played Thief!
I don't like doing things over and over and over again, and the stats- obsession vibe that I'm getting from this game is not encouraging many
more attempts. If I can't realistically defeat all the Raiders in the
store, then why the fuck am I allowed to find my way to it in the
first place?! That's like allowing me to take on Diablo when I'm only
clvl 3!
Should I save myself further needless torment and find something else
to play that actually entertains me (instead of torturing me Guantanamo-style) or is there some secret to this area?
I'd love to know as I'd really like to enjoy this game, but right now
it feels like I'm being fucked with sandpaper!
Dave S.
Dave
I never had much trouble with this on the two times through I've played,
and both times I did it right off the bat. I can think of two possible reasons you might be having trouble.
1. If you're playing it on a games console I think the game is close to unplayable. I play it on a PC, where you can actually aim at the enemy
in combat. I guess console jockeys may disagree - and that's fine - but
I tried it on a friend's console and was amazed at how much more
difficult aiming was.
2. You might not be aware that you can't just heal your total HP. You
have to also check for damage on your limbs. If you are running around
with close to full HP but your head is seriously damaged then the game
plays around with your senses and aiming and makes fighting pretty difficult. The same friend I mentioned wasn't aware of this and he was trying to fight with his head hanging off - and it doesn't work well.
Otherwise, just take your time and don't try to take everyone on at once--- Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
and you should be fine.
JC
The levelling is not great at the start. I went into the Super Duper
Mart almost immediately, and had a world of problems. So I went away and
did something else.
Many of the quests don't directly involve combat, but can give you experience or items (including money) that will help. You mentioned
defusing the bomb in Megaton, do that instead of trying to clear out the Super Duper mart - you can go back when you have better items, skills,
and tactics for combat.
If in doubt, the main quest line will take you lots of places and give
you lots of opportunities to enhance your character. The Super Duper
Mart is really a dead-end plot wise, if you don't like it, don't go there.
me feel like I'm playing with a permanent 3-second delay.
David Simmons <xenobuzz@att.net> wrote in news:b4062969-9b9a-49d0-af49- db5cf7e9dbab@h28g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
There's always this soupy lag that makes
me feel like I'm playing with a permanent 3-second delay.
perhaps you need to upgrade your computer. adding more ram might be all
you need. 512 meg of ram jsut might not be enuff. on my lil rig i have 8 gigs of rams, i never slowed down since i added it. tho the game load screens are too fast to read ;/ didnt get to read all the lil hints till
i got an xbox
the mart is the hardest battle in the begining of the game.
kill 1 or 2 peoples, then go back to megaton n rest up.
hunting rifle myself, atleast until the plasma one becomes avail. i boost up my small guns and repair skills. i dont think in the last 4 games i
have put 1 point to sneak. tho i can see where that would be useful.
also, do not play it set on HARD. not until you understand the combats n such.
i find it an extreamly simple game, that i can loose at.
tick--- Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
tick wrote:
David Simmons <xenobuzz@att.net> wrote in
news:b4062969-9b9a-49d0-af49-
"Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@gmail.com> wrote in >news:M1DQm.34250$kY2.28061@newsfe01.iad:
tick wrote:
David Simmons <xenobuzz@att.net> wrote in
news:b4062969-9b9a-49d0-af49-
the last game i played, my current one, i had the most probs. i had the >shit tore outta me with the first person.. then a second nad 3rd came >along. used all my health. i finally got to the robot and hacked the >computer. that helped me defeat the rest. and the lil drugs i found let
me stay alive. sneak is for wimps. small guns and repair!
On 02 Dec 2009 19:24:52 GMT, tick <Axe@you.com> typed furiously:
"Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@gmail.com> wrote inAt least with sneak you stay alive.
news:M1DQm.34250$kY2.28061@newsfe01.iad:
tick wrote:the last game i played, my current one, i had the most probs. i had the
David Simmons <xenobuzz@att.net> wrote in
news:b4062969-9b9a-49d0-af49-
shit tore outta me with the first person.. then a second nad 3rd came
along. used all my health. i finally got to the robot and hacked the
computer. that helped me defeat the rest. and the lil drugs i found let >> me stay alive. sneak is for wimps. small guns and repair!
At least with sneak you stay alive.
"Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@gmail.com> wrote in news:r_BRm.34545$Sw5.7460@newsfe16.iad:
At least with sneak you stay alive.
speaking of alive, i had the encounter that would not end. i did sneak,
and i was undetected. until that cat exploded
it musta been the raiders HQ. 15 raiders came at me, and a shitload of ghouls. i survived, by using everything i had to stay that way.
sneaking didnt help. a shotgun did :)
David wrote:
On 02 Dec 2009 19:24:52 GMT, tick <Axe@you.com> typed furiously:
"Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@gmail.com> wrote inAt least with sneak you stay alive.
news:M1DQm.34250$kY2.28061@newsfe01.iad:
tick wrote:the last game i played, my current one, i had the most probs. i had the >>> shit tore outta me with the first person.. then a second nad 3rd came
David Simmons <xenobuzz@att.net> wrote in
news:b4062969-9b9a-49d0-af49-
along. used all my health. i finally got to the robot and hacked the >>> computer. that helped me defeat the rest. and the lil drugs i found let >>> me stay alive. sneak is for wimps. small guns and repair!
I like the fact that with sneak you can get a one shot kill on many >opponents. Cuts down the wear and tear on equipment. Since many of the >best weapons are fairly rare, or unique, keeping them repaired becomes a >problem if you wear them out too soon.
Plus if you kill an opponent with a sneak shot quite often the others
never notice, even though they walk right past the headless body, and
you can get yet another chance for a sneak shot.
tick wrote:
"Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@gmail.com> wrote in
news:r_BRm.34545$Sw5.7460@newsfe16.iad:
At least with sneak you stay alive.
speaking of alive, i had the encounter that would not end. i did sneak,
and i was undetected. until that cat exploded
it musta been the raiders HQ. 15 raiders came at me, and a shitload of
ghouls. i survived, by using everything i had to stay that way.
sneaking didnt help. a shotgun did :)
So to paraphrase Teddy Roosevelt: Walk softly but carry a 12 gauge.
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